Unfortunately Temple Fork Outfitters has now discontinued the TFO 375 and 450 reels! I tried a 330 grain scandi lite on it and it was way too heavy. Here is our pick for the best inexpensive rod and reel combo to swing with. The method in which we used to measured swing weight with the two-handed trout rods was basically the same way we measure 9-foot rods, the only difference being where we placed the fulcrum. Mono Advantages:  Shoots the best. Many of these rods when measured in their cloth bag will be 1-2 inches shorter than the tube itself. The anodized aluminum up-lock reel seat isn’t too fancy but the two lock rings secure the reel adequately. We also love the Airflow Skagit FLO tips. The Fenwick Aetos comes in a deep blue color that sparkles beautifully in the sun. The Redington Dually 11’5” 5-weight is another inexpensive rod coming in under $300.00. FLO tips have larger diameter butt sections, which we feel helps smooth the transition from your line to your leader while casting. Reply ↓ Iain MacLeod. I took the average of these measurements and this figure became the swing weight. Still, you can see which rods were stiffer and which were softer, which translated to how they performed on the water. The Quantum 12’7” 5-weight is the longest rod in the shootout, yet you’d never guess that by picking it up. But for those who have mastered it and the line management involved, there is nothing more deadly in fly-fishing for achieving long, perfect, 100 foot drifts. Orvis Hydros Fly Reels. The TFO 375 has always been on of our all time favorite mid-priced reels, especially for trout switch and trout spey rods. The St. Croix Imperial 11’ 5-weight is another good choice for an angler looking for a great performing rod without the high-end price tag. 2020 marks the return of Greys to the United States. Fenwick Aetos 11’1” 5/6-weight     $299.95. The up-lock style locking rings are exceptionally smooth and easy to spin along the threads. Experts will love this line as the 360 grain line perfectly loads the IMX Pro and will allow a good angler to achieve maximum distances with little to no effort. The best running line, the SA floating braided PE mono would only add another $30 and you can request this over the Amnesia. This rod feels much heavier than most of the other rods, despite its average length. You really have to wait for this rod and let it do the work rather try to punch it or force it to work. For this reason alone we recommend you get a Fenwick Aetos 11’1”#5/6 instead, as they are significantly stronger, not to mention less expensive, ($170 less than the World Class 11’6” #5/6). However, it is noticeably heavier than the Beulah Onyx, Sage ONE, Custom Flywerks Quantum, and G. Loomis IMX PRO. Like an Alfa Spider, Greys faded out of the mainstream and into the fond memory of enthusiasts. Lighter rods like the Aetos enable you to keep fishing hard all day long. $26.99, 50 yards 20lb Amnesia ……………………………………………………..$4.95, 100 yards 20 pound backing ……….…………………………………… $9.99, YA hand tied custom trout Spey leader …………………………….…$3.95, Douglas DXF 10’6”#5……………………………………… $425.00, Temple Fork Outfitter’s 375 reel………………………. When fishing a sink tip, a longer leader defeats the purpose of a sink tip. For tips, we picked Airflow’s 10′ T10 FLO Tip. Because of this, most Trout Spey lines are Skagit-style lines. The drag on the Sage is not as strong as on the Hardy but it is plenty strong enough. In making the deflection charts, we placed the rods at approximately a 45-degree angle and then hang a lead weight of 3.9 oz. In hand it feels significantly heavier than the Orvis H2, Douglas DXF, Fenwick Aetos, and St. Croix Imperial. Finding a nicer reel will be difficult. Heavier in hand compared to the H2 and DXF, but still exceptionally smooth. Having the ability to quickly change the depth your nymphs are being presented at is the key to catching more fish. The Custom Flywerks Quantum blanks are finished in a gray graphite color with matching gray thread wraps over carbide ring TiCr strippers and TiCr snake guides. The Hydrogen fell in the middle of the pack in terms of length, swing weight, action, and performance. As far as running line goes, everyone has their own preferences and we can adjust to this when you order an outfit. 8. The cork grip is different from other handles, using a conglomerate of worm cork rather than cork rings. The Hardy Jet #5/6 switch rod is finished in a grey graphite color with matching dark grey wraps over fuji stripper and snake guides. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. It is much easier to learn how to spey cast with a heavier line as you can feel the line load better. Mono, braided PE, and fly line. Orvis uses a black and green carbon fiber inlay that matches the blank well. I reach for it first and can't suppress a smile while fishing it every chance I get. Hardy Jet 10’6”  5/6-weight     $294.50. If you’re swinging wet flies without a sink tip on a larger river and prioritizing presentation and finesse, a Scandi setup may be the most productive casting method for you. The DNA Trout Spey rod is beautiful; in fact, this rod has some of the nicest fit and finish in the pack. This is a lifetime warranty, and if this rod breaks, they They will repair (but usually replace the rod)  for $35. FLO tips only come in 10-foot lengths, but come in T7, T10, T14, T18, for $26.99 each or the entire kit (which includes a zippered wallet) for $120.99. This is a good rod for anglers trying to swing slow and deep with heavy sink tips. James Anderson with an OP steelhead. The black aluminum up-lock reel seat isn’t fancy with two locking rings that tend to squeak over time. They are good at what they do and they focus exclusively on building great fly reels at a price anyone can afford. $60 handling fee. NEW! The backing capacity can reach an impressive area. Sage and Redington have had a stellar showing in this shootout so far, but the Dually, unfortunately, fell a little short. If you are fishing reasonable distances however, it will be hard to find a rod that feels as smoothly “zen” as the Quantum. We set up each of the rods we were comparing with the same exact reel, line, running line, amount of backing, and leader. The Hydrogen has a lot to offer any angler and, at an insanely affordable price, won the ‘Best Buy’ award in the shootout. Tested  Overall Weight – 10 points available. The TFO 375 is burly and durable to boot. Overtime, when it becomes dirty it becomes more prone to tangles. A cordura covered rod tube and cloth bag are included. I love the large drag knob on the backside of the reel that is easy to grip and adjust. Our deflection charts have been popular in our single handed rod Shootouts, so we wanted to include them with this Trout Switch and Spey Shootout. At 12 feet long, the Clearwater is long enough to make big mends and manipulate the line better than shorter trout spey rods, yet does not feel brutally heavy. I use a 270gr s. A. Scandi lite on the 4 WT MICROSPEY and it works. Good news / bad news here. It is the third lightest rod in the test overall as well as the third lightest in terms of swing weight. Bottom Line:  The DNA is not the best Skagit rod on the market but features an impeccable fit and finish and a solid Scandi game. Non-original owner $150 per section. The result is awesome turnover, with an even tighter loop, which is better when punching into the wind and also for accuracy (if needed). For reels, we choose our favorite trout spey reel, the TFO 375. Length is in the 15’ +/- zone, which has become the standard for smaller trout Spey rods. Usual time 2-4 weeks. Like Winston, T&T writes the serial number on each section of the rod which also serve as alignment dots. If you’re looking for a forgiving rod, check out the Echo. You can choose from a variety of feathers, but my favorite is the turkey feather with a single plume of jungle cock. Braided PE Advantages:  Tangles less than mono but shoots better than coated running lines. Another difference between choosing a reel for a single-handed r… The Jet’s medium-fast action is fun but this rod definitely needs more power when casting into the wind. Ultimately each of us have to answer that question on our own, but the answer for most of us is going to be no. Swing Weight – 10 and 20 points available. Moving down to a lighter 4/5 switch line will make it perform  better. The cork is also off the charts in terms of both quality and aesthetic beauty. Once you do get this rod in motion it will really throw some line. Well done. The extra grain weight will allow a learning spey caster to feel the line load better, and in the long run it will be a less frustrating line to learn with. The one thing we liked better about the Aetos was its lighter swing weight and feel. Winston Micro Spey 11’6” 5-weight rod oozes soul and is overflowing with feel. The grip on this rod is significantly thinner than other rods, which could actually be a good thing for anglers with smaller hands. Tom Larimer and Steve Rajeff did a terrific job teaming up to design these rods. One reason we love FLO tips is that they have a larger diameter butt section, which allows for a smoother taper when transitioning from the line to tippet. When we originally tested this the Beulah Platinum 11’7″#5-weight it was $100 less at $495. They will indeed, but it’s nice to treat yourself every now and then. We tested a lot of different lines to find the right pairing. 1-406-222-7130. Gotta love it. When it comes to punching spey casts into a 30+ mph wind all day, it is easily king of the river. After zeroing out the scale, we would put all 4, (or 5) sections on the scale and record the scale’s output in ounces, down to the nearest tenth of an ounce. It does have some memory to it, especially when it is cold outside so you’ll want to stretch this before each day’s use. The reel and spool are made from machined aluminum, making it very durable and corrosion-resistant. However, an important distinction to make is that spey is a style of casting, not necessarily a type of rod. Echo – Lifetime warranty for original owner. 300 for the Scandi? They should have a Spey reel shootout. http://www.redsflyfishing.com/Redington-Hydrogen-Trout-Spey-Rod-Complete-Outfi-p/red-hydro-spey-outfit.htm A great little trout spey rod. It will stand up well to bangs and scrapes. These rods are designed much like 9-foot rods, with stiffer butt (and midsections) and softer tips. While it boasted the lightest swing weight in the test, the Dually, unfortunately, had the worst overall casting performance. Rods are replaced. Usually takes 1-2 weeks. Still, a great rod for anyone who prefers a slower, softer action. The end of each section has an interesting “checkered” carbon fiber weave that I’m not used to seeing on other blanks. Fishing this rod is fun and it’s forgiving, although not nearly as poweful casting into the wind as the Sage ONE, G. Loomis IMX PRO, T&T DNA or Orvis Clearwater. The Clearwater is a two handed cannon that throws long like a champ. Attention Sage – this is what a thousand+ dollar rod should look like! Trout switch and trout spey rods are simply smaller versions of “regular” switch and spey rods. Give us a call at the shop anytime you want to talk rods regarding “regular” switch and spey rods. For the longer trout switch and spey rods that have heavier swing weights, the TFO 375 helps balance the rod in your hand, eliminating more strain on your forearm muscles, especially when swinging. We love this reel because it is extremely durable, relatively inexpensive, has a great drag, and it spins with the best of them. Lifespans may be increasing, but Orvis’ is now merely 25 years. For the trout spey rods distance was more important as you will want to be able to cover as much water as possible. Categories include: gravel bar one upsmanship, pairs well with a Cuban, swing weight, takes well to Instagram filters, etc. Skagit on a trout spey is no fun. Mono) because it shoots pretty well, is somewhat more resistant to tangling, and has pretty good grip when it comes to stripping in line. Now the current and correct price is $595.00. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Paul Bloch with a nice Yellowstone buck caught on a Copper and Gold Kreelex, 2017 5-Weight Trout Switch and Spey Summary. Usually the only good alternative is to replace it. The reel utilizes 3 sealed ball bearings that are amazingly smooth and allow the spool to spin better than any other fly reel I can think of. 7. The 12’6” length really helps throw a big mend to get your fly deeper. Nymphing with a 12-15 foot spey rod from the bank is a form of art that is frankly too difficult to learn for many anglers. The Fenwick World Class blanks are finished in a grey graphite color with teal blue wraps over chrome stripper and snake guides. It’s also amazingly light so you can high stick this rod without much shoulder fatigue. As you can see there is a lot more variation than deflecting 9’#5 weights, which were all pretty similar. (Trout spey only). If you think you might be fishing rivers like the Missouri or Bighorn more often then you should highly consider the 11’11”#4. The Platinum’s smooth medium action makes casting fun,  but it was more difficult for me  to produce tight loops. In our opinion these rods should really cost over $1,000.00. Wide, easy to hit casting sweet spot. Their wraps and coatings are simply perfect. With the DXF’s light yet powerful construction, this rod means business and brings a formidable game without an overbearing price tag. Either way, with a longer handle you can choose what feels comfortable for you. Fenwick- Lifetime warranty. Softer trout spey rods had more difficulty handling these larger streamers, where the ONE handled them like a champ. Early spey rods were 22 feet long, but modern spey rods are typically only 12 to 15 feet and available in two, three, and four-piece models. 5. Although this rod is not as long as others, it has no problem casting equally as far, if not the farthest. We also like the click and pawl sound you get with the Orvis Bettenkill. Every manufacturer now has some kind of “Lifetime Warranty”. It is easy to see and shoots great at a far less cost than other mono running lines. I don't question your results, but what do you think is the reason for these reversed preferences? The IMX-Pro is the longest rod in the shootout at nearly 12 feet. All of these rods are well designed and have that smooth, effortless casting feel to them. The Douglas DXF series has long since been a favorite of our since we saw how well it performed in our 5-weight shootouts. When my timing was perfect I was blown away by how far I could cast. I love how this rod does the work for you and throws long bombs with minimal effort. As smooth as this rod felt, I wish it had a little more power for the Livingston wind. There's nothing particularly impressive about the 11' 4" 3wt Clearwater Trout Spey but it's also not a complete dud. It took a while to get the timing down with the 210 but I find it to be a great scandi rod with that weight. You are still on the river, and the basic principles of casting still apply, but in the end, you have a lot to learn, or “re-learn” if you will. This smoother transition matches the thickness of the Skagit line as well as the leader on the other end, making this the best tip we have found. Trout spey rods that could easily throw the Skagit Scout, plus 50 feet of floating braided PE were awarded perfect scores. The reel comes in a number of sizes and they have even added some for Spey rods, so you can chase salmon and steelhead with a click and pawl. The DXF blanks are finished in a tasteful matte forest green color with matching dark green wraps over hard chrome stripper and snake guides. You will find each manufacturer’s policy listed below under Warranties Explained. Sage Spectrum C Fly Reels. The H2 was significantly lighter, faster, and more powerful. The Airflow Scout 360 skagit line works perfectly with the Sage ONE 12’6”#5 trout spey. Turnaround time is usually two weeks. The quality of cork is very good, although the length of the foregrip seems longer than it needs to be. When we first cast the IMX-Pro we thought it had a really solid chance of winning the shootout. For single-handed rods, it's necessary to match the size of the reel to the size of the rod you're using. Rods are repaired, not replaced. The softer midsection of the rod means the Winston really rewards the angler with a slower casting stroke. Winston – Lifetime warranty to original owner, $50 handling fee. Probably the best fly fishing reel available at any price. As always, I was impressed with Winston’s attention to detail and dedication to impeccable craftsmanship. The pewter grey milled aluminum down-lock reel seat works well and looks elegant with the added Thomas and Thomas engraving. Usually takes 2 weeks. We also love the Airflow Skagit FLO tips. Perhaps the reason for this extra weight is that TFO uses both a layer of IM6 graphite as well as a layer of Kevlar woven into the blank in a crisscross patern. 4. At 12 feet long, the Clearwater is long enough to make big mends and manipulate the line better than shorter trout spey rods. As in prior shootouts, it is critical to eliminate as many variables as possible. We still have a few red and gold reels left, but most of these are black. These tips have a thicker diameter and more mass than other tips, which translates to a smoother transition between your line and leader. If you’re going to be high sticking out of the boat all day chasing a bobber, your arm is going to get fatigued. A winter Yellowstone brown caught on a two-handed rod…  Photo:  The Wizard, But I Like to Swing with a Switch Rod and Nymph with a Spey Rod…. It is the lightest of the Shootout. Thank you for all of your blogs. 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